VantagePoint Software Reviews 214

I recently attended a webinar for VantagePoint's trading software, and what followed was one of the most frustrating sales experiences I’ve ever encountered. After the webinar, I received two back-to-back calls from sales representatives who used cliché and irritating sales tactics like, “What would you do with all the trading profits you'll make with the system?” It felt incredibly pushy and unprofessional.

I had to reschedule for work reasons, but the next day was no better. I joined a Teams presentation on the software, and it turned out to be just as bad, if not worse. The rep spent most of the time making obnoxious, overblown claims about the software’s accuracy while pushing overpriced packages. When I politely explained I had to leave for work, the rep turned aggressive, insisting I choose a package on the spot. I reiterated that I wanted time to think it over, but he wouldn’t let it go. When I thanked him for the presentation, he snapped at me, claiming I “obviously didn’t appreciate the presentation” because I didn’t purchase anything immediately. This was completely out of line, and I ended the call right then and there.

Being skeptical, I decided to dig into their claims, particularly their so-called "Independent Third-party Accuracy Study of VantagePoint." For context, I hold a Ph.D. in business with a minor in applied statistics, so I know how to evaluate accuracy claims critically. Here’s what I found:

#### Directional Matches for Typical Price Predictions:
- For Apple Inc., the directional match accuracy of VantagePoint’s predictions was 64.71%, compared to 60.00% for a naive model.
- This is a meager improvement of just 4.71%, far from the groundbreaking performance their sales team claims. Accuracy improves with the use of their set of proprietary indicators (which you will have to purchase and which were mentioned during their initial sales pitch).

#### Trade-offs in Signed Forecasts:
- While VantagePoint reduces directional bias slightly, the standard deviation of errors (e.g., 2.37 vs. 2.47 for Apple) shows little improvement. For a system touted as revolutionary, these gains are unimpressive.

#### Challenges with Volatile Markets:
- In highly volatile scenarios, like Shopify or REX, their so-called Neural Index accuracy dipped to as low as 57.48%, barely outperforming random guessing.

#### Disappointing Short-Term Crossover Performance:
- The short-term crossover success rate for VantagePoint predictions was 63.11%, only 5.46% better than a simple standard crossover system (57.65%).
- When additional filters (like the Neural Index) were applied, the success rate increased only slightly, to 64.14%, a marginal 1.03% gain.
- Notably, the naive model outperformed VantagePoint in 16% of cases, with some markets showing differences of up to 11.6% in favor of the naive model.

#### Additional Warning:

The pricing is absurd. Packages start at $2,900 for just a single sector (out of 16). If you want all equity sectors, you’re looking at over $10,000. And that’s not all—VantagePoint’s accuracy report mentions “proprietary indicators,” but you will likely have to purchase these separately after the initial investment! Expect some aggressive upsell sales techniques once you're on the hook.

I also did some digging on forums and found troubling accounts from former sales employees. They confirmed that reps are heavily incentivized to pressure customers into giving their credit card numbers upfront, only to upsell additional products later. This is the only way to come even close to the accuracy claims advertised.

No trial? No problem? Think again. You’ll have only 14 days to cancel your purchase—no trial is offered at all. If this doesn’t scream “sketchy,” I don’t know what does.

In short, VantagePoint’s software offers, on average, minimal improvements over basic prediction models while being paired with an overpriced and aggressive sales pitch. The entire experience left me frustrated, insulted, and skeptical. If you’re considering this software, I strongly recommend you take their claims with a grain of salt and do your own thorough research before spending a dime (>$10K for any reasonable assortment of equities).

Traders, I have been at this for well over 30 years. It's only the last 10 that I have taken things into my own hands. In an effort to improve my results, I have donated lots of money learning the hard way as well as spend a Kings Ransome on the many programs that are out there. Recently I stumbled upon Vantage Point AI predictive software. It has the power to use the many years of stored information in it's data base to look ahead and predict 1-3 days in advance as to what you can expect a Stock, Commodity, Forex etc. to do with 87% proven accuracy! True story. They have many indicators that let you know what to expect in advance. They don't just sell you the software. Weekly, you connect with your Trading Coach. He takes control of your computer and explains exactly how to read and use the different indicators to come up with a good idea of exactly what you can expect to happen. Don't spend another Dollar on any programs until you have watched the Vantage Point AI free video. You will be glad that you did.
john in NJ

I've had issues seeing consistency in this software UNTIL NOW--I've been getting some incredible one on one training so things are all starting to come together.
I will update this review showing actually results as my learning proceeds.
Software is expensive but that is relative--If it makes you money its a deal at double the price--Stay Tune
Needed help to add charts to my laptop promptly answered call and took care of via remote support quickly Impressive operation

One thing I can say about vantage point is they do what they say they're going to do. They are extremely honest.

Wes

I purchased Vantage Point Software in late 2017 and have been too busy to take the time to focus and learn how to interpret the valuable information it gives. I would get frustrated and set it aside. Even after purchasing several trainings and watching Vantage Point University webinars. It wasn't until one of their sales associates, Fernando Bonilla contacted me in June, that I began to ask myself, "why not", why am I struggling to get it.
Fernando took the time to give me a few pointers, very patiently, I might add and it motivated me to take the time to apply myself. It is only recent. So, I don't have a long list of consistent trades to look back on yet, but I will say that I see how, after all this time, I can gain the confidence to trade options and stay in the trade to make it profitable for me instead of playing "Whack a mole" as before. It will take time , but I am beginning to see daylight. Thank you so much for all your help and patience.

VantagePoint is a one of kind business. From day 1 of purchasing the software, vantagepoint has been there every step of the way. From loading the software to your computer to the one-on-one coaching that comes with your software package. This company cares about the product that they deliver and truly care about the success of their customers. The money I have spent has been worth every penny!! I highly recommend them; you will not be disappointed!

The software is cutting edge and the support is the greatest 150% Everything at the latest summit was far beyond my expectations if your considering Vantage point get the free demonstration you'll be impressed especially if you're a seasoned trader even a beginner I highly recommend

I’ve dumped a lot of money into education and tools over the past ten years, and VantagePoint AI sits at the top of the few that have yielded the results I had hoped for.

My journey, as a retail trader, began with options, with which I was able to achieve a level of proficiency that I would describe as a “Mexican stand-off” with the market makers. Futures are a completely different animal, for a whole raft of reasons, and, with them, I have been able to “marry” VantagePoint AI forecast data with an auto-assisted trading script, which I run in intraday trading on the NinjaTrader platform.

Lots of water under the bridge and over the dam for me over the past 10 years, but, with VantagePoint AI, I’ve finally found true comfort in what works best for me, from both a trading style and a lifestyle standpoint. It is, in a word, indispensable.

At first I bought a package and began working with a guy to learn the software. that wound up being a sales pitch so I asked for a refund. I was put in touch with Linsey and she extended my time to get refund and asked that I work with her weekly until that time. She was very good to work with, to teach me the software, answer questions and simply help in any way possible. I have found that anyone I have spoken with has been professional and very nice. If not for Linsey I would have gotten a refund. Since working with her I have begun to better understand the product and how and when to get in on options contracts. I am averaging a little over $400 a day just working about 2 hours in the morning and checking in the afternoon.

A very well organized company. When you call them about any problems, they are there to help. They care and want you to succeed. I have been with them a couple of years and I’m making money. They have live webinars just about everyday to teach you how to use the software.

Whenever I need to discuss any issues / concerns VantagePoint employees - no matter at what level - are there to help. The employees all seem to understand the meaning of working as a team. It has been evident to me that providing a quality service (no matter the issue) - and the willingness to assist has been present since day one and at every contact point that I have experienced. A well run organization.

It's been a good experience with them.

I just wanted to say this organization is fantastic. I have been working with Linsey and she is awesome. She takes the time and answers all my questions no matter how insignificant they maybe. This organization actually cares that you are successful using their software. I highly recommend.

don't fall into this vp software trap its a just a scam they can't fully teach you to use the system 100% its just a wasted of money so go with other software that really want to see you make some real money on the market.

I been using Vantagepoint since July 2023, and the customer service staff is amazing. They make sure you know how to use the software correctly. Linsey S has personal made sure that I know how to use the software, she was able to make the software make sense, thank you so much.

My Journey…

Having never traded before, I committed one year to read, learn, and experiment with various approaches to creating personal success and wealth through trading. I read books by many of the recognized trading gurus (Dennis, Buffett, Murphy, Williams, et al). I learned that successful traders are very hard-working and smart people who use various analytical means (charts, moving averages, technical analysis, etc.) as the basis for their forecasting philosophies and methodologies. There was no way I could assimilate all of the years of experience of successful traders, each of whom had his own story to tell. I spent close to $10,000 on various trader systems and determined that none consistently provided me the edge necessary to be successful. It became apparent those systems were based solely on the analysis of historical data and were lagging indicators. It was like determining my direction forward while only looking in the rearview mirror of my automobile, and that made absolutely no sense! I was disillusioned and thought that there was no edge to this game of trading. I took a few weeks away from the educational process to clear my head. I determined that, like my car’s direction, there had to be a forward-looking methodology, a leading indicator, which used historical data and other impacting variables that collectively would give me the edge I needed. I rededicated myself to finding someone who had developed some type of system that addressed that issue. I read Mendelsohn’s book, Trend Forecasting with Technical Analysis, written in 2000, and realized that his approach to trend forecasting made eminent sense when using both historical and intermarket data. His work was corroborated by John Murphy who wrote, “I feel indebted to Mendelsohn for proving that those ideas do, in fact, work and can be profitably applied to the financial markets.” Mendelsohn wrote in the second edition (2008) about the expanding use of neural networks in his decision-making and risk analysis software. Eureka, I had found it!

Since that moment I have been an actively involved student and trader using only the VantagePoint software and their implementation system. The VantagePoint teaching methodology is deliberate, focused, and in ever-increasing levels of learning, each level leading to a greater understanding of the software and how to utilize it most effectively. I needed all of the training. It is hard work, but my trading returns have exceeded my expectations. This has been a year-long journey but a successful one. I wrote this at length to share my personal story knowing that there are many novices and professional traders out there looking for the edge…I found mine. Good luck and profitable trading!

Monty Felix

From my background in healthcare, I know everything is related in the body. For example, smoking can cause a variety of issues on other organs, poor foot alignment can cause spinal issues and headaches. This is also the philosophy of VantagePoint Software: stocks are related to other stocks and other financial products, often to a high degree of correlation. I specifically use the Larry Williams indicators as it is used within VantagePoint to a high degree of success (up to 100% at times).

I am a stock day trader, never holding stocks overnight. There are no quick answers to success. I work on stock-picks every day. To be successful, sometimes my trading day begins at the market open and I am finished trading within 10 minutes. Other days, I am trading the entire day.

I have used VantagePoint for over 5 years, and it has been one of the best financial investments I have made.

Vantage Point exceeded all expectations for what the training, software, and support could do. I was quickly brought into the Vantage Point family with dedicated trainers, online support, and encouragement. I've become such a more patient and informed trader because of the tools I have with Vantage Point.

Several things makes my experience great. First, the overall software is well built and improved all the time.

Their AI predictive indicators are first class in the industry. The staff at VantagePoint are awesome. All of them really seem to want you to exceed, providing many different opportunities for education to learn the software and leverage your investment.

VantagePoint is one of the leaders in the industry.

Traders are always looking for an edge and I get that with Vantage Point. I have put a lot of time and energy into learning the finer points of using Vantage Point indicators, looking to see if they are in agreement before I make a decision to enter a trade. The A.I. is sometimes uncanny in showing the change in sectors or stocks that are of interest.